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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.lumbertalk.com/2007/12/19/how-to-build-a-retaining-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:15:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, 
Unfortunately, I totally missed this one so it&#039;s probably too late to help.  Either way, if by &quot;drainage&quot; you mean backfill then you should probably use something granular like sand or dirt with pebbles so the water will drain away instead of holding pressure on the wall. 

You&#039;ll need lag screws for the whalers - min 5/16&quot;.   I am known for &quot;overbuilding&quot; (but my structures don&#039;t break) so I would use 3/8&quot; or even 1/2&quot;.  For an extra dimes per piece you will sleep easier for another 10 years.  Tip.  You will often save money (a lot) on hardware by buying it from a local small business lumber dealer instead of through a hardware store or big box like Home Depot, etc.  You might get better/friendlier service, too.  

For the boards/sheets/centermatch use big stainless screws.  You&#039;l know &#039;em when you see &#039;em.  

Tip for the boards - cut the 10 footers in half at about a 35 degree angle.  When you drive the boards into the dirt, the angle will automatically force them against the adjacent board (the last board you installed). 

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron,<br />
Unfortunately, I totally missed this one so it&#8217;s probably too late to help.  Either way, if by &#8220;drainage&#8221; you mean backfill then you should probably use something granular like sand or dirt with pebbles so the water will drain away instead of holding pressure on the wall. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll need lag screws for the whalers &#8211; min 5/16&#8243;.   I am known for &#8220;overbuilding&#8221; (but my structures don&#8217;t break) so I would use 3/8&#8243; or even 1/2&#8243;.  For an extra dimes per piece you will sleep easier for another 10 years.  Tip.  You will often save money (a lot) on hardware by buying it from a local small business lumber dealer instead of through a hardware store or big box like Home Depot, etc.  You might get better/friendlier service, too.  </p>
<p>For the boards/sheets/centermatch use big stainless screws.  You&#8217;l know &#8216;em when you see &#8216;em.  </p>
<p>Tip for the boards &#8211; cut the 10 footers in half at about a 35 degree angle.  When you drive the boards into the dirt, the angle will automatically force them against the adjacent board (the last board you installed). </p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.lumbertalk.com/2007/12/19/how-to-build-a-retaining-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 10:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chuck, 

Cool project.  If it were mine, I would always opt for bigger timbers.  Dirt is heavy.  I would use 6x6&#039;s or 4x6&#039;s laid flat and backfill with a granular dirt (pebbles, sand, dirt).  Have fun building the shed.  Whistling helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chuck, </p>
<p>Cool project.  If it were mine, I would always opt for bigger timbers.  Dirt is heavy.  I would use 6&#215;6&#8242;s or 4&#215;6&#8242;s laid flat and backfill with a granular dirt (pebbles, sand, dirt).  Have fun building the shed.  Whistling helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.lumbertalk.com/2007/12/19/how-to-build-a-retaining-wall/comment-page-1/#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn, 

sorry for the slow response.  I have trouble getting to this sometimes.  Ask your neighbors.  Maybe they want to build onto yours.  Otherwise, it is very common to build &quot;wing walls&quot;, which are just short walls (3 to 6 feet) that extend back and protect from erosion and such. 

Enjoy it, either way. 

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn, </p>
<p>sorry for the slow response.  I have trouble getting to this sometimes.  Ask your neighbors.  Maybe they want to build onto yours.  Otherwise, it is very common to build &#8220;wing walls&#8221;, which are just short walls (3 to 6 feet) that extend back and protect from erosion and such. </p>
<p>Enjoy it, either way. </p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brian, 

That should do it - soak, weigh it down, soak, weight it down.  That is a strong piece of wood.  It will take some SERIOUS weight - like a car on each end.  No kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brian, </p>
<p>That should do it &#8211; soak, weigh it down, soak, weight it down.  That is a strong piece of wood.  It will take some SERIOUS weight &#8211; like a car on each end.  No kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 03:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a 6x6 x16ft pressure treated post which has a slight twist from end to end - how can I remove the twist ?
- if I puton flat surface &amp; put heavy weights on each end, and constantly soak the whole unit , then let it dry in summer heat over 2-3 week - (soak &amp; dry, soak &amp; dry, 3 -4 times) will this be the right action?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a 6&#215;6 x16ft pressure treated post which has a slight twist from end to end &#8211; how can I remove the twist ?<br />
- if I puton flat surface &amp; put heavy weights on each end, and constantly soak the whole unit , then let it dry in summer heat over 2-3 week &#8211; (soak &amp; dry, soak &amp; dry, 3 -4 times) will this be the right action?</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!  Hoping for some help today!

We are building a 2 ft retaining wall at the front of our property.  We plan to use square steel tubes as fence posts and 2 courses of 2x12&quot; wood placed horizontally.  We are also planning to build a fence right on top of this wall by using 8&#039; steel tubes to anchor both the retaining wall and the fence above it.  We think to sink them 3&#039; down, 2&#039; retaining wall and then 3&#039; fence.  

Our problem is- what do we do about the sides of the wall?  The 2 sides of the wall- one borders our neighbors property and the other borders our driveway.  Do we build the sides of the retaining wall too?  (like a 3 side huge planter box?!) What sort of anchors do we use if we have to turn the corner of the front retaining wall with the 2x12&#039; boards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  Hoping for some help today!</p>
<p>We are building a 2 ft retaining wall at the front of our property.  We plan to use square steel tubes as fence posts and 2 courses of 2&#215;12&#8243; wood placed horizontally.  We are also planning to build a fence right on top of this wall by using 8&#8242; steel tubes to anchor both the retaining wall and the fence above it.  We think to sink them 3&#8242; down, 2&#8242; retaining wall and then 3&#8242; fence.  </p>
<p>Our problem is- what do we do about the sides of the wall?  The 2 sides of the wall- one borders our neighbors property and the other borders our driveway.  Do we build the sides of the retaining wall too?  (like a 3 side huge planter box?!) What sort of anchors do we use if we have to turn the corner of the front retaining wall with the 2&#215;12&#8242; boards?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking at building a horizontal retaining wall that will probably be about 2 to 2.5  feet tall at highest point and  20 foot long.  I am &#124;_&#124; shaping this on uneven ground to level out for a 12x16 gardern shed to sit on.  Question is what size wood should i use 4x4, 4x6, or 6x6.  I was thinking of 4x6 but just curious.  I will be back filling with rock to level out for the shed.   And also would i be better off putting a hard lime rock in that will set up or just back fill with pebbles for water drainage.  

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking at building a horizontal retaining wall that will probably be about 2 to 2.5  feet tall at highest point and  20 foot long.  I am |_| shaping this on uneven ground to level out for a 12&#215;16 gardern shed to sit on.  Question is what size wood should i use 4&#215;4, 4&#215;6, or 6&#215;6.  I was thinking of 4&#215;6 but just curious.  I will be back filling with rock to level out for the shed.   And also would i be better off putting a hard lime rock in that will set up or just back fill with pebbles for water drainage.  </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 06:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I&#039;m building a 4&#039; retaining wall that is 70&#039; long.  There is a creek about 40 yards away but the water will not be reaching the retaining wall.   Im in northeast FL what type of drainage if any you would recommend?

 I will be using 8&#039;&#039; butt x 8&#039; for the piling.  I&#039;m spreading them apart every 6&#039;.  The whalers will be 2&#039;&#039;x8&#039;&#039;x12&#039; that will be double stacked onto the pilings.  What is the proper size screw I will need to attach the whalers to the pilings? 

 I will also be using 2&#039;&#039;x8&#039;&#039;x10&#039; cutting them in 1/2 for the wall.  What is the proper size screw to attach the wall to the whalers.  

Thanks!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m building a 4&#8242; retaining wall that is 70&#8242; long.  There is a creek about 40 yards away but the water will not be reaching the retaining wall.   Im in northeast FL what type of drainage if any you would recommend?</p>
<p> I will be using 8&#8221; butt x 8&#8242; for the piling.  I&#8217;m spreading them apart every 6&#8242;.  The whalers will be 2&#8221;x8&#8221;x12&#8242; that will be double stacked onto the pilings.  What is the proper size screw I will need to attach the whalers to the pilings? </p>
<p> I will also be using 2&#8221;x8&#8221;x10&#8242; cutting them in 1/2 for the wall.  What is the proper size screw to attach the wall to the whalers.  </p>
<p>Thanks!!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 04:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 

I don&#039;t get it.  Give a little more description and I will be more than happy to give it a shot.  

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it.  Give a little more description and I will be more than happy to give it a shot.  </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 04:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Preston, 

There&#039;s a lot going on there and I hate answering questions like that too specifically.  Here&#039;s what I (that&#039;s a big boooooold capital &quot;I&quot;) would do...
1.  No tiebacks - it&#039;s just mulch.  I would use longer rebar - driven into the ground much farther, especially on the taller sides.  
2.  Depends on the size of the timbers.  4X4&#039;s would get rebar only, 6x6 or larger would probably get some nails, too.  (those dudes are heavy)
3.  Every 4 feet seems fair enough but, again, I would drive it deeper into the ground - like 2X height of wall into the ground.  
4.  Fully (FULLY) sunk into the wood.  We don&#039;t want any accidents with the kiddos. 
5.  Hmm, you&#039;ll have to test that one but you are right that it should be very snug.  Remember that treated wood will shrink when it dries.  

I hope this got to you before your project.  Otherwise, I hope it helps someone else.  Great questions!  

Chris

p.s., all that stuff is just what I would do.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Preston, </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a lot going on there and I hate answering questions like that too specifically.  Here&#8217;s what I (that&#8217;s a big boooooold capital &#8220;I&#8221;) would do&#8230;<br />
1.  No tiebacks &#8211; it&#8217;s just mulch.  I would use longer rebar &#8211; driven into the ground much farther, especially on the taller sides.<br />
2.  Depends on the size of the timbers.  4X4&#8242;s would get rebar only, 6&#215;6 or larger would probably get some nails, too.  (those dudes are heavy)<br />
3.  Every 4 feet seems fair enough but, again, I would drive it deeper into the ground &#8211; like 2X height of wall into the ground.<br />
4.  Fully (FULLY) sunk into the wood.  We don&#8217;t want any accidents with the kiddos.<br />
5.  Hmm, you&#8217;ll have to test that one but you are right that it should be very snug.  Remember that treated wood will shrink when it dries.  </p>
<p>I hope this got to you before your project.  Otherwise, I hope it helps someone else.  Great questions!  </p>
<p>Chris</p>
<p>p.s., all that stuff is just what I would do.  <img src='http://www.lumbertalk.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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